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Corisande's avatar

Thank you for this.

Yes: the “no debate” era is over, thank goodness.

Now we’re getting, apparently “we’ve always had this discussion [and everyone else has always agreed with us do what’s wrong with you?”] and “respectful debate means agreeing with everything we say”]

If you’re on Facebook, have a look at the “labour trans equality” page for examples.

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Clothes Moth's avatar

Great observations, thanks Sarah

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Sarah Phillimore's avatar

Thank you.

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Clothes Moth's avatar

Don’t understand how any of this is relevant to rights, workplaces etc/+

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Sarah Phillimore's avatar

I don't think it is. But the forced teaming with LGB is making others think that it is.

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Clothes Moth's avatar

I just had my comment deleted by The Times newspaper for mentioning avoiding marks and Spencer workers with pronoun badges. It’s political - why would I not avoid when this stuff just sucks my life force out leaving me feeling depleted. I don’t know how you keep your energy up on this

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Mark Birbeck's avatar

I think you’re right. Continuing to demand clarity is the way to go. And it’s always interesting the effect doing that has. It seems to instantly enrage a lot of trans activists. Mind you I tried to read Judith Butler recently, and if that’s the bible then no wonder these people are confused 🙂

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Adhib's avatar

Butler is a bunko-booth shyster. Anyone who reads her mumbo-jumbo, and buys it, thereby reveals they had a pre-existing psychosexual weakness for a narrative like hers, and not enough of a critical rudder to resist the temptation. Husserl's brackets were meant to be a temporary bodge, not permission to ignore material reality completely.

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