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Kelley certainly needs to define what she means by 'harm'. It sounds as if she is saying that no-one should say anything that has the potential to hurt the feelings of a someone who claims to be a "transperson". Apart from such a position being ridiculous, in terms of free speech, how can another know what is likely to hurt the feelings of such a person given that each is an individual with a different perspective and position?

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Thanks for doing the summary. I listened to it this morning and, like you, was very impressed with Emma Barnett for (finally) asking some questions. It was good to see the "no debate" strategy finally dispensed with. Went back to Twitter and...Ellie Mae O'Hagan...sigh

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