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Jonathan Solomon's avatar

Thank you Sarah for taking these delusions and making proper sense of them.

I hope that they will heed your advice but suspect not.

Ideologically inept cult driven drivel that somehow they believe will actually pass as reality.

Well done

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Gerda Ho's avatar

I used to support them, but no more! They have gone the way of the trans cult and have spewed out the lies!

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Mistyn Pho May Sian's avatar

I don’t have the will to go through the course but regarding the “motivations of the “anti-gender” movement”, I would argue that it is simply a reaction to trans activists who will stop at nothing to invade women’s spaces using Orwellian tactics. I somehow doubt the course mentions that.

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Mistyn Pho May Sian's avatar

Incredible insight Shane. Well done

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Velociraver's avatar

In other words, "I can't be bothered to leave my own echo chamber and read the thing I will now denounce as having no grounds in reality". 🤣 Why, that's BRILLIANT, it must save so much time when dealing with complex issues.

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Sarah Phillimore's avatar

I have gone through the training line by line Shane. If you think it is accurate and fair, there is nothing I can say to you. Your echo chamber must be sealed so fast that nothing can get through to you.

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Daniel Howard James's avatar

Simone de Beauvoir must be the most misquoted woman of the last century. One is not born a woman because one is not born an adult. One is born a child. Socialisation happens after that.

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Petula's avatar

I'm also highly amused by the idea that de Beaucoir was about 'illustrating facts', rather than putting forward philosophical ideas

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Sarah Phillimore's avatar

They are now simply unable to distinguish between immutable reality and an opinion.

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Daniel Howard James's avatar

Unable or unwilling. My belief is that after the popular uprisings against communism of 1989 in both Europe and China, campus radicals retreated into unreality, enabled by the universities' free Internet access. Judith Butler led the way with her PhD thesis on Hegelian influences in France, which is why she remains a guru of the movement despite having nothing worthwhile to say.

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Petula's avatar

Now? I suspect these are people who always had difficulty with that distinction

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KenInNZ's avatar

Thanks Sarah, Amnesty International has become a woke parody of the fine organisation it once was. The founders would be mortified as many members from previous decades no doubt are.

Back in the 1970's as a 13 year old, I heard a representative from Amnesty International give a talk at our school. Back then it abided by very simple principles.

Against torture

Against the death penalty

Support for Prisoners of Conscience (people imprisoned for non violent political or other views).

No campaigning in your own country

We raised money by washing cars and other chores and one lunchtime a fortnight wrote letters to presidents, governors, kings, sheiks.

I was a member for thirty years.

Now they do more harm than good.

Reprieve out of the UK is the closest thing to a 'proper replacement'. Amnesty International has become a joke.

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Gerda Ho's avatar

I can’t understand why these organizations that started out with good intentions and also did much good have regressed to such a low level.I can only think that they were deliberately infiltrated by the trans cult , before anyone realized it.

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Gilgamech's avatar

In any charity the top tier fundraisers are the legacies team. An email to them explaining how toxic this is for their ability to fundraise would not go amiss.

legacy@amnesty.org.uk

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David Thorp's avatar

Very disappointing from Amnesty International, which discredits their reputation and hence also their important work on other matters.

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Gilgamech's avatar

Education activities are carried out by the charity wing of Amnesty UK. This means they are obliged to be non political and can be sanctioned by the Charities Commission (as they have been in the past). The official name of the charity wing is:

Amnesty International UK Section Charitable Trust

Charity number 1051681.

Bizarrely the Trustees are all appointed by the political action section. That sounds fair and prudent…

The email address given for the charity and/or Trustees is

governance@amnesty.org.uk

Perhaps a direct approach to the Charity Commission and equivalent Scottish body would be best.

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Kathy VF's avatar

Says it so much better than I did in my response. They kept hiding my comments as I breached their definition of transphobia. Anybody believing that humans come in 1 of 2 types of sexed bodies & cannot swap to the other one is, by definition, transphobic.

I must admit that I gave up on Amnesty after Amnesty Ireland’s “no such thing as a female body” & ‘anyone who thinks there is should be denied political & media representation’.

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Sarah's avatar

Thanks for highlighting this Sarah. Once again I am struck by, in the absence of a coherent argument, these gender ideologues construct an enemy to fight that bears no resemblance to the truth.

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Nick Child's avatar

As usual, brilliant work Sarah. I’ve emailed Amnesty using your description as extra confirmation for why we unsubscribed from Amnesty.

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Bob's avatar

Quite astonishing that a movement as amorphous in its definitions as the TRAs should consider the term “gender ideology” purposefully lacks a clear definition.

And yet this is how the gender movement works. By outlawing any language that can be used to criticise it or truthfully define it. So they deny the existence of ROGD and AGP; they get upset if you run “transwomen” into one word because “trans” is merely an adjective for a type of woman; we can’t say “one’s preferred pronouns” because preference implies that these pronouns are something less than indisputable FACT; we skirt around saying gay or lesbian but embrace “LGBTQ” because that undefinable mess is the REAL community you belong to.

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Dusty Masterson's avatar

How has a once great organisation sunk to these depths!!

You really took one for the (Terf) team there, Sarah, thanks very much.

Have cross posted

https://dustymasterson.substack.com/p/some-are-born-to-endless-night

Dusty

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Gilgamech's avatar

Emailing them as we speak - I want back every penny I’ve ever given to them.

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Dave's avatar

My advice to men who think they are women. If you think that, there are a few things that you need to understand. First of all is that you are still a man because you can't change your biological sex. It's okay to dress any way you wish and to adopt any superficial, stereotypical attributes of women that you desire. Live your life. No one should care, I certainly don't.

However, because women are entitled to be treated fairly and to enjoy privacy from men there are certain things that are prohibited to you and me because we are men. You can't compete against women in most sports because it would be unfair. You can't go into women's private places like restrooms and locker rooms because that would make them feel unsafe. Finally, if you are a criminal you certainly can't be imprisoned with women.

That's it, just like me.

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Robbie Spence's avatar

Great email to Amnesty International UK about their course on Gender Justice and Human Rights. I just sent this to: Supporter Communications <sct@amnesty.org.uk>

Dear Amnesty International UK,

I know two people who have taken part in your course, Gender Justice and Human Rights: Tackling the rise of the anti-gender movement. Both were critical of the course. One of them, Sarah Phillimore, wrote about this at https://sarahphillimore.substack.com/p/gender-justice-human-rights-and-propaganda

At the end of her post, she mentioned her email of formal complaint about your training course that she sent to the trustees of Amnesty International, which I append below for your information. I’d like to know how you respond to her questions. Please could you send me a response to Sarah Phillimore’s email of formal complaint?

Sincerely,

Robbie Spence

[and I appended Sarah's email of formal complaint from the blog]

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Norma Laming's avatar

well you have more patience than I have; my eyes cross and the gears in my brain mesh, reading that bllx. Human are extraordinary, aren’t we? We construct castles in the air, massive bodies of invented lore based on absolutely nothing at all. It’s like getting a degree in alchemy or Mesopotamian theology: fascinating and intricate but also acute nonsense.

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