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Dusty Masterson's avatar

Thanks for bringing us this very important decision, Sarah though, as you say, a shame they didn't designate medical 'transition' as a special category of treatment.

Have cross posted.

https://dustymasterson.substack.com/p/the-snowman

Happy Christmas and thanks for all your hard work for the Terven!😊

Dusty

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Jeremy Wickins's avatar

That's great news, Sarah, and, as you say, very significant. Congratulations! Do you have the full case-name, please?

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Sarah Phillimore's avatar

Haven’t yet got a link to judgment - will have a look

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WomanOnTheEdge's avatar

Sarah, is it possible to politely challenge the Court of Appeal over the wording of the judgement in respect of the Cass commentary, ie to ask for a clarification?

I'm sure that, protocol wise, the answer is no, but this is a new area of involvement for the courts, the landscape is shifting rapidly and the so called 'controversy' is a perceived rather than an actual one.

We saw in the Supreme Court how the judiciary is having to wrestle with very new (and ultimately nonsensical) concepts around the whole notion of 'transgender' and the history of this case more than amply shows that understanding and legislative approaches are evolving. I'd like to think that our legal system is able to reflect on and respect this, including by being willing to consider that it may have not had the knowledge to fully understand all the implications of its statements.

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Sarah Phillimore's avatar

I would like to think it would support a ground of appeal - such an odd and misinformed comment.

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Ed's avatar

Here’s the link to the judgement https://www.judiciary.uk/judgments/o-v-p-and-q-2/

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Sarah Phillimore's avatar

Thanks! will add to post.

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Purleeze's avatar

I don’t hold out much hope that the court will stop treatment by GenderPlus. They are self-styled ‘experts’ in the field and are doing their best to do things by the book. Oh, and the CoA saying the Cass review is controversial makes my blood boil!!

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Sarah Phillimore's avatar

But there is no book. That’s the point, which this court at least recognised. So it will help the JR.

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Jeremy Wickins's avatar

Thank you!

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Bob, the Free Radical's avatar

The Fact remains that no medical procedure can change a biological female into a male.

can't be done, and the entire idea is totally UNNATURAL, so some people are asking the courts to endorse an UNNATURAL ACT.

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Stuart Bryce's avatar

If a court considers a child competent to undergo transition “ because he or she is over 16 and of sound mind”. A bit strange really. Gender Dysphoria, being a psychiatric condition, how could it be said that he or she, so suffering is of sound mind? I don’t think so. Can’t wait for this hazardous craze is over.

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Sarah Phillimore's avatar

Lack of capacity for Mental Capacity Act requires a disease or injury to the brain. Having gender dysphoria doesn’t mean you automatically lack capacity to make decisions. I think it’s more relevant that these are children.

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