Is this capable of bringing down both the criminal AND family justice systems? Much more work needs to be done to analyse the impact of this bill on the already tottering family justice system.
Sarah this is a very welcome and essential piece, the reality of family proceedings (which you will know better than me) I would have thought extraordinary for any family involved.
Thank you for your instinctive and immediate concern about what this means for parents and children. I cannot see a LA will have any option once a parent is charged but to consider public law proceedings. It will destroy families for a delusion or for homophobic conversion, as you have noted.
Will persuading a teenage girl, just coming to the realisation that she is same-sex attracted, that she is really a boy who needs her breasts removed also be banned?
I like this. We can start a lot of private prosecutions. Why don’t we create a fund? Many of us parents brutalised by gender ideology have it in for these people. I bet we could cause a few headaches 😄
It would help if we went on the attack very early. Lots of us parents of same sex attracted trans identifying children should teach teachers and social workers a lesson 😊
This draft appears to be very dangerous in its unintended consequences. I can see that simply too few MPs have the skills or interest to scrutinise the draft effectively (only 2 members of the current WESC, Rosie Duffield and Rebecca Paul, have the deep understanding needed for the genuine examination of equality issues and the rest, sadly including the Chair Sarah Owen, seem not to have read the Equality Act and some, like former Lib Dem equality spox, sound positively barking) and as it’s a Labour manifesto commitment I fear the House of Lords will feel unable to oppose it as rigorously as it deserves.
It’s a serious problem. There is an MP on X opining that ‘trans’ is a PC. They have no understanding of what they are doing, this will make the Dangerous Dogs Act look like a drafting masterclass.
It’s so vague that lawyers will make millions. Gender identity isn’t even a measurable characteristic. But in essence anybody can prosecute anybody, if your friend misgenders you, if your parents don’t pay for your hormones, if your university teacher tells you to put your rainbow flag away…who knows all the evils that this will lead to. But then we too could come up with interesting solutions. For a start us gender criticals could declare ourselves to be included as part of the alphabet. If they can identify as a USB stick so can we. We could get really nasty with them.
JM is an odd one - no doubt very clever, but naive as a babe when it comes to the unconscious, sexuality and deeper recesses of the mind - and so he is captured by them, without awareness. A not uncommon hazard of the legal profession.
Sarah this is a very welcome and essential piece, the reality of family proceedings (which you will know better than me) I would have thought extraordinary for any family involved.
Thank you for your instinctive and immediate concern about what this means for parents and children. I cannot see a LA will have any option once a parent is charged but to consider public law proceedings. It will destroy families for a delusion or for homophobic conversion, as you have noted.
Thank you for this Sarah, have restacked it to people who listen to our podcast.
Will persuading a teenage girl, just coming to the realisation that she is same-sex attracted, that she is really a boy who needs her breasts removed also be banned?
Hopefully! This bill is not without silver linings
I like this. We can start a lot of private prosecutions. Why don’t we create a fund? Many of us parents brutalised by gender ideology have it in for these people. I bet we could cause a few headaches 😄
At this stage, of years of battling determined idiocy, why not? Their rules against them.
It would help if we went on the attack very early. Lots of us parents of same sex attracted trans identifying children should teach teachers and social workers a lesson 😊
This draft appears to be very dangerous in its unintended consequences. I can see that simply too few MPs have the skills or interest to scrutinise the draft effectively (only 2 members of the current WESC, Rosie Duffield and Rebecca Paul, have the deep understanding needed for the genuine examination of equality issues and the rest, sadly including the Chair Sarah Owen, seem not to have read the Equality Act and some, like former Lib Dem equality spox, sound positively barking) and as it’s a Labour manifesto commitment I fear the House of Lords will feel unable to oppose it as rigorously as it deserves.
It’s a serious problem. There is an MP on X opining that ‘trans’ is a PC. They have no understanding of what they are doing, this will make the Dangerous Dogs Act look like a drafting masterclass.
Oh, crikey, not in the least surprised.🙄
It’s so vague that lawyers will make millions. Gender identity isn’t even a measurable characteristic. But in essence anybody can prosecute anybody, if your friend misgenders you, if your parents don’t pay for your hormones, if your university teacher tells you to put your rainbow flag away…who knows all the evils that this will lead to. But then we too could come up with interesting solutions. For a start us gender criticals could declare ourselves to be included as part of the alphabet. If they can identify as a USB stick so can we. We could get really nasty with them.
Maybe those of us who are estranged will be better off after all. Nothing can touch us anymore.
JM is an odd one - no doubt very clever, but naive as a babe when it comes to the unconscious, sexuality and deeper recesses of the mind - and so he is captured by them, without awareness. A not uncommon hazard of the legal profession.
Great analysis, Sarah.
I also feel that this Bill is in itself incompatible with Article 8 of the HRA. We need to demolish it!
Have cross posted
https://dustymasterson.substack.com/p/women-do-not-consent
Dusty
Why not do a bit of brainstorming at the next Battle of Ideas on how we could use this against the trans ideologues?